HLG 650R. They are bad boys. I wouldn’t even look at an led until they got the blurple out of them. Now I wouldn’t flower with anything less. I think it is more about the PPFD than the spectrum but I can’t handle the early blurple lights. You get these lights or a HID bulb to close to your plants it will cost you quality as well as quantity! Without Co2 enrichment and a dialed in nutrient mix anything over around 1000 PPFD will hurt your plants. Just like feeding to heavy. Anyone that says you can’t have too much light is wrong or has an unlimited supply of Co2 and their nutrients dialed in perfect. Still I have found anything over 1300 PPFD or so at the top of the canopy is waisted. Doesn’t seem to help any and maybe a gradual negative effect on your harvest. These are at 1300 PPFD with 1250 PPM Co2 levels. One fixture would have probably blast this 4x8 but I tend to overdo. LOL With the extra height of the Gorilla Grow tent or the 8 foot ceiling grow room these are really great lights. I also put the HLG UAV Bar on these for flowering. I run it from the first sign of frost on. I veg under Spider Farmer SF4000s now at 24” and 50% power or 600 PPFD top of canopy. You can’t look at the picture and really see the mass of these colas. They are waist tall trees. I’m running 3 flavors right now. 11 roses, Gorilla Glue #4, and Arkansas Skunk. The Skunk is outdoors. First time in many years for outdoors. I almost forgot how.
A little closer for the 1300 PPFD. Between 31-32 inches at 100% for the 1300 PPFD. 34/35 inches for the 1000. Since I got 2 in this 4x8 I run them at around 30 inches at less power to save some power and help the boards last longer instead of raise them. Depends on the coverage your after, the layout and reflectiveness of the surroundings, and light lap also of course.
These colas are 18-20 inches long and green all the way to the bottom up until recently. They are starting to fade. That is what they are supposed to do as they mature though. No problem with light penetration. That is 12 inches from the bottom Scrog net to the top stabilizer net. They are 6-8 inches over the top net. These are well over waist high bushes. Don’t be scared of leds. The SF-4000s are awesome to grow under as well. I don’t even need a special assigned ac in my veg area most of the year at 50% power. Right now it runs very little and it is hot in my neck of the woods.
With the middle at 1300 PPFD what is the measured PPFD at the outer edges of the canopy and what is it at at the cross over in the middle of that monster 4 X 8 tent? Any problems with the 1300 PPFD in the middle? It sure doesnt look like it. Great looking grows.
r u saying take a cutting now 4 clones ??? i am still high from last nite but i have started on 2 days buzz ....
Your looking at all clones.
wazn't quite sure but i thought just wanted 2 b clear great work .....
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Absolutely beautiful
What kind of light are you using? Looks great
HLG 650R. They are bad boys. I wouldn’t even look at an led until they got the blurple out of them. Now I wouldn’t flower with anything less. I think it is more about the PPFD than the spectrum but I can’t handle the early blurple lights. You get these lights or a HID bulb to close to your plants it will cost you quality as well as quantity! Without Co2 enrichment and a dialed in nutrient mix anything over around 1000 PPFD will hurt your plants. Just like feeding to heavy. Anyone that says you can’t have too much light is wrong or has an unlimited supply of Co2 and their nutrients dialed in perfect. Still I have found anything over 1300 PPFD or so at the top of the canopy is waisted. Doesn’t seem to help any and maybe a gradual negative effect on your harvest. These are at 1300 PPFD with 1250 PPM Co2 levels. One fixture would have probably blast this 4x8 but I tend to overdo. LOL With the extra height of the Gorilla Grow tent or the 8 foot ceiling grow room these are really great lights. I also put the HLG UAV Bar on these for flowering. I run it from the first sign of frost on. I veg under Spider Farmer SF4000s now at 24” and 50% power or 600 PPFD top of canopy. You can’t look at the picture and really see the mass of these colas. They are waist tall trees. I’m running 3 flavors right now. 11 roses, Gorilla Glue #4, and Arkansas Skunk. The Skunk is outdoors. First time in many years for outdoors. I almost forgot how.
Thanks!! Great info is always appreciated!!!!
how high over the canopy did you have them ? looks like about 36-40 inches @ 100% power ?
A little closer for the 1300 PPFD. Between 31-32 inches at 100% for the 1300 PPFD. 34/35 inches for the 1000. Since I got 2 in this 4x8 I run them at around 30 inches at less power to save some power and help the boards last longer instead of raise them. Depends on the coverage your after, the layout and reflectiveness of the surroundings, and light lap also of course.
thank you sir , i must say you're making it look pretty good in that tent, great job JM !
Thanks miggs.
These colas are 18-20 inches long and green all the way to the bottom up until recently. They are starting to fade. That is what they are supposed to do as they mature though. No problem with light penetration. That is 12 inches from the bottom Scrog net to the top stabilizer net. They are 6-8 inches over the top net. These are well over waist high bushes. Don’t be scared of leds. The SF-4000s are awesome to grow under as well. I don’t even need a special assigned ac in my veg area most of the year at 50% power. Right now it runs very little and it is hot in my neck of the woods.
With the middle at 1300 PPFD what is the measured PPFD at the outer edges of the canopy and what is it at at the cross over in the middle of that monster 4 X 8 tent? Any problems with the 1300 PPFD in the middle? It sure doesnt look like it. Great looking grows.
Is that coco coir?