I usually grow a few and top after 5th set of leaves come in by then I already transplanted and wait to see growth before I top so I don’t stress them, sometimes if the phenos are way different from each other like this grow I will top to keep canopy level or try at least. I vegged 8 weeks on these but usually go 6 then flower. Soil is Fox Farm Ocean Forest. I have been averaging about 10 weeks into flower before harvest so usually between 110-120 days from seed