good morning Ben i fim 99.9% time maybe just a little less but i fim the main site  3rd or fourth node then have 2  next fim them at the 3rd or fourth node PLUS the first set of branches fim them and you have 8 very nice buds plus work the lower branch's for them 2 become nice buds keep the conapy level [flat]  but topping will do the same thing but take longer