I bought some of their seeds for the great Marlboro Pipeman Auto Challenge a few years ago. None of the plants were even close to alike other than the massive amount of leaves and I think that is a natural thing for Autos. Phenos my ass, thats just bad breeding or maybe you cant back cross an Auto. Its possible I am biased thought, lol. But seriously I would go with a breeder thats been at it for a long time.