i know from doin sum searches of existing seedbanks that do ship to canada and from some in canukistan . nov.1st might be feasible to order from nirvana for those in the states but chances are i'll still be SOL cuz alot of american seedbanks won't ship here either , so its wait n see i guess but i'm not gonna hold my breath. ILGM relocated to Cali. from europe i believe and doesn't ship here either.