Recently I ordered 10 reg. seeds of 80's Durban Poison from Khalifi Genetics, zero germ. So I contacted them and sent a pic of the failed germ. They were really understanding and sent me more 80's DP...zero germ AGAIN ! I contacted them again and sent another pic . They said this strain is "somewhat" difficult to germ. At this point I told them I would just wait and maybe try a different batch later. I also told them that this is not doing their seed company any good, selling seeds that are duds ! In 50 years of growin weed I've never had such consistently bad seeds. Live and learn !!