this was actually a mix of Nirvana's Ice male pollen and i dusted a Fem of Pipes 11 Spartan mix...in that same project i dusted some pollen from a 11 Spartan male onto an Ice fem,,,havnt tried that yet...but yeah its good stuff an looks awesome...i have reg beans of the ice x 11 spartan and some 11 spartan x ice and some crystal (nirvana) x 11 spartan