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Defoliation Confusion !

by sreveo about July 15 - report

I have alays Defoliated to some extent , on every grow I have done. But I have always been cautious and afraid I would destroy my girl by doing too much. 

I watched two different tutorials on pruning , and one said to only take out fan leaves that were not connected to potential bud sights .

I'm talking about early flower.

The other , sais to take ALL medium to large fan leaves , which really strips the plant down . And I can understand letting allot more air and light through for bigger buds. But , every plant I grow is allot of work and I really can't experiment with them for fear of losing them. What do you guys do ?

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  • 8.523

    SubterraneanHomesickBooze 8.523 points - July 15

    see? Thats a monster cropping/reveg. Am i right?

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    • Screwstick
      Screwstick
      3.042 points -
      July 15

      Ask the same 10 a 2nd time and you will probably get a few more answers. LOL

    • SubterraneanHomesickBooze
      SubterraneanHomesickBooze
      8.523 points -
      July 15

      I believe you are right! But dont you agree that the plant in the pic is a reveg?

    • chubby441
      chubby441
      2.040 points -
      July 15

      It very well could be SUB . Sure looks like it. What did Serv say ? If you LST a plant like this,(spread that bitch out) and then assess the defol issue after that, I think a grower will get a better feel for "how much'" to strip off. You're not...  more

    • Screwstick
      Screwstick
      3.042 points -
      July 16

      I would say its a reveg

  • 3.042

    Screwstick 3.042 points - July 15

    I cut all fan leaves that are not attached to a bud site before the flip and generally leave only one fan leaf that is attached to a bud site after the 3rd week of flower. Looks like your already in flower so I would go easy on it until the 3rd week after you saw pistils. After that I would go at that plant with a vengeance and there would be triple the fan leaves on the floor compared to whats on the plant. 

    If I were a cautious person I would go at it a little easier and get rid of all the leaves block light. 

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  • 7.577

    king 7.577 points - July 15

    i would have been working a little earler but now in flowering wait until the reveg is done and veging again as soon as i could i would start removing some of that rat's nest at the bottom a lot of that stuff don't get light lollipop that girl 

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    • king
      king
      7.577 points -
      July 15

      lollipop that girl when the time is wright then just enough 2 keep light and air flow u will b good 2 go.....

    • chubby441
      chubby441
      2.040 points -
      July 15

      Absolutely...you are in control ! The more experience you have with reveg, you'll see all kinds of weird growth. This can be used to ones advantage to increase the canopy and yield. Gotta work that bird nest early !!

  • 2.506

    Hulk 2.506 points - July 15

    That's a good question and looking back on past grow the time of when I trimmed them really didnt change but different strains and even different phenos of the same strain effect how much you trim. So I would say it's almost plant specific. Times of when to trim vary based on when stretch is over after 3rd sometimes 4th week of flower. Hope this helps.
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    • Screwstick
      Screwstick
      3.042 points -
      July 15

      Good answer

    • chubby441
      chubby441
      2.040 points -
      July 15

      I agree with SS !!

  • 19.893

    harley24 19.893 points - July 15

    With my photo period grows i defoliate once before i flip to flower and once again after the initial stretch. I always leave the fan leaves next to main cola's. I do remove fan leaves from lower bud sites so air and light can be evenly spread over the entire plant. I may periodically remove a fan leaf if i feel it needs to be removed or i know it is blocking light. It took me several years to learn how to defoliated properly. Some grows i did not do enough defoliating and some i did too much. I believe now i have it where i do it just right. With my auto grows i start right after the stretch and only remove 2 to 3 leaves every other day and each week i will pluck more leaves like up to 5 or 6 evey other day. I only remove the fan leaves that are blocking light. I also clean up or lollipop the bottoms of the plants removing any branches/leaves that are using energy that can be using in better places like buds. You would be surprised how many leaves you can remove from an auto in 6 to 9 weeks. Do it slowly so you don't stress the plant.  Good luck.  Peace

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    • harley24
      harley24
      19.893 points -
      July 15

      I forgot to say that i train my plants where the branches are separated and the left over fan leaves do not get in the way of light and air circulation. Peace

  • 9.086

    ChAs420 9.086 points - July 15

    good answers here...awesome bush ya have goin there..those get really knarley when they reveg...when i do that i trim off everything down in that i dont want..and kinda like form the branchs the way i want them to go an cut others off ect..after a couple weeks of werkin with it the bush shud be lookin like a normal plant kinda..those are a good way to fill out a scrogg net too...and pratice cloning skillz with what ya cut off..GL

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    • Screwstick
      Screwstick
      3.042 points -
      July 16

      If I ever do another reveg is will be a SCROG for sure, it's like the plants are telling the grower to SCROG them, hell it may be where the SCROGing idea came from.

  • 6.086

    justme 6.086 points - July 16

    Like mentioned above, you need to clean her up so that she is getting good light and airflow to every node you will be leaving until the end. I would also spread her apart and take some limbs off. The revegs are very bushy. If you try to harvest down that low after she goes back into flower and stretches again you will have tiny fluffy buds down there. That is fine if you are using them for tenatures or edibles but if you want bag appeal and less leaf to bud ratio with easier trimming, I would remove all of this after the stretch is over and just leave some big colas that make it to the top of the canopy. 8 colas seems like it works out best for me indoors. If you are growing outdoors I see no need to defoliate at all. Nothing like the sun for plants! You don't have to be scared of killing the plant with defoliation (I have slowed them down but never killed one). You will never know how much to defoliate if you never defoliate too much. Good time to start cutting limbs off and after that you can view what leaves should go. I would definatly spread her out and remove the smaller lower limbes before taking leaves off of what I was keeping because she will look completely dofferent after those 2 steps are done. I would just advise to never remove more than 1/3 of the total plant in one sitting for plant safety and she will be fine. They can handle a lot more than you think they can!! I have had some get bush hogged a little while before beginning to flower by the power company and what was left of them still produced nice big flowers. We might all have different recommendations on how to or how much to defoliate but I think we all would agree that you have a lot of defoliating to do. Have fun and happy growing my friend!!

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