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3 week AF, should I move or leave alone? Solved

by Kipper about October 13 - report

My 2 Jock Horror AFs are in soil in 3 litre pots, indoors (pic shows a little low stress training, the wine bottle was for scale- now drunk, it, not me). No nutrients used yet.

I have just got some 2 gal root pouches, root extender and soil and flower tabs from harvest-soon.

I was wondering whether to transfer these plants, and whether to use the root extender and soil tab or is it too late for that and I just use a flower tab and leave where they are?

I am wary of disturbing them especially as they are only a week or so from beginning pre flowers.

Any thoughts?

Of course I could just start a new grow with two seeds in the new kit, alongside these. But it would be nice to give these as much help as possible.

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    5.087

    caiman 0 points - October 13

    If your pot is around 3 gallon let plant stay there. If smaller I would transplant with extra care into 5 gallon. Fill pot 1/3 up, place plant on top and gently fill in sides. Jock has a 11-13 weeks flower time so it needs space.

    I use mycorrhizae for roots. I like Great White. No flower taba use bloom supplements.

    I germinate seeds in final pots without anything just the seed.

    You can place 4 plants in that tent I think but these 2 would be too advanced with just one light with 2 short and 2 tall plants.

    Above answers are great so your choice. First 3

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    • caiman
      caiman
      5.087 points -
      October 13

      I believe Jock flower time has been updated but that is the present description.

    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.881 points -
      October 13

      Jock did take me that long to finish, but boy was it worth the wait. You will have a happy new year.
      You can grow them with the one light, but you may not be happy with the yields. One of those per plant would be great. You could easily grow 3 plants in t...  more

    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.881 points -
      October 13

      That light with what you have should do sufficient for that tent size for quite some time.

    • Kipper
      Kipper
      52 points -
      October 13

      I have usually grown Northern Lights auto which I have flowered for about 8 weeks. I think the JH has a sativa content? maybe this takes longer. Guess I will have to wait and try not to run out in the meantime. Hoping the JH will be good for pain relief. ...  more

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    bill59 760 points - October 13

    Hi Kipper, I'm not the auto expert here but I know the basics. Best case is not to transplant when growing autos. Start your seeds or rapids rooters in your final container so you don't have to stress them by transplanting.

    But in your case my opinion is to transplant to 3 or 4 gallon pots now. Autos are ready to flower anytime between 3 and 5 weeks and already outgrowing the containers you have. As for the flower tabs, that is risky in my opinion because you won't have control over the amount of nutrients they get. Different strains need different amounts of nutrients so a slow release tab is not your best bet. Go with a proven nutrient line like GH or Fox Farms and start with 1/4 to 1/2 of the recommended doses then adjust as needed.

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    • Kipper
      Kipper
      52 points -
      October 13

      Cheers
      Transplanting was my worry, after my first few attempts I have always started in the final pots. These pots are small to keep the height down but since I started LST on my plants that's not so much problem. Not sure I can leave them while I have th...  more

  • 341

    SniperSteve 341 points - October 13

    Bill59 pretty much nailed it. Autos are specifically for quick grows, and while transplanting when done correctly should have almost zero effect on your girls, it’s an unnecessary risk. They look healthy, stay away from the root extenders and other additives, just let the plants do their thing. I personally don’t like the tabs, but to each his own and if they work for you then stick with them. Personally, I’d also suggest one of the more popular nutrient lines, starting weak watching for burn, and adjust from there giving them as much as they can take up until your final flushing before harvest. Happy growing!
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    SanBoisLee 8.828 points - October 13

    That is about the size of a "trade gallon" so it's not that bad. I would set those pots into a bigger container. Doesn't have to be buried all the way down. The roots will go through and feed off of outter soil. Transplanting is possible but risky at this stage.

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    • SanBoisLee
      SanBoisLee
      8.828 points -
      October 13

      Yes, I do this outdoors and the plant will throw out feeder roots through those holes. You should try it with at least one plant, I think you with be amazed at the results.

    • SanBoisLee
      SanBoisLee
      8.828 points -
      October 13

      One more point Kipper, the plant being root-bound forces the energy to the top and as long as it gets plenty of nutes, you will actually get more yield.

    • Kipper
      Kipper
      52 points -
      October 13

      Decided I couldn't wait so done the deed now. thanks for good advice and comments

    • SanBoisLee
      SanBoisLee
      8.828 points -
      October 13

      That's fine, a transplant at this stage should work good.

  • 16.881

    HomeBrew 16.881 points - October 13

    OK, I agree with everything that's been said by everyone above. That being said, this auto is not at a stage where it's too late to transplant, but it is very close. You have 2 options for transplant.

    1 - transplant as normal and use the root extender to encourage new root growth. This will also aid in recovery from the stress.

    2 - Follow SBL's suggestion and just bury the current pot in soil most of th way so the roots can find a way to their new home as they grow through the bottom holes and into the new soil.

    There are risks with either method. The risk with option 1 is that the shock may delay the beginning of the flower stage. The risk with option 2 is the roots that continue to grow in the inside container will become rootbound and reduce the overall size of the plant. 

    Either way, it sounds like you have a choice to make, because keeping it solely in the existing container will definitelly reduce the max size capability of this plant and should not be an option..

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    • Kipper
      Kipper
      52 points -
      October 13

      Thanks, I agree leaving them is not an option. The pots will severely limit them, and I know I wont be able to leave them alone! So I think option one as soon as possible is the way to go. Cheers

  • 6.947

    stick 6.947 points - October 13

    Autoflowers need 3 gal or larger...Anything smaller than 3 gal will effect yield amount..Is a weed.it will grow in a solo cup but not much yield if any..

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  • 5.087

    caiman 5.087 points - October 13

    Three more things.

    1. I believe your tent is 3x3 and that size will take 4 plants. If smaller then I do not know but guess 2 plants. .

    2. Ligths should be around 300W LED for a 3ft.x3ft. but more is much better. I have 2 300W LeDs in my 3ft.x3ft. HB is an expert in LED so take his advice. I am just telling you what my tent has. In fact I wonder if 4 would be optimal i.e. 1 per plant.

    3. Your pot looks like it is clay with a glaze. If so and the glaze is on the inside then the plant should slide out of the pot. Hit top of pot with a hammer to loosen it if needed. One broken pot is worth a Jock. Have bigger pot ready.

    Good luck and you now have some great experience.

    • Score: 0
    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.881 points -
      October 13

      A rubber mallet will knock the plant loose without breaking the pot.

    • caiman
      caiman
      5.087 points -
      October 13

      Correct but if he uses a hammer or 3 pound sledge on his expensive pot and breaks it he will remember better. At least I did/

  • 52

    Kipper 52 points - October 13

    Thanks for the great advice.

    I have gone with a careful transplant with a little bit of root powder (half a sachet each plant). the old pots were plastic but they came out ok, roots already curling round the bottom of the pot so glad I did what you guys said. Fingers crossed for the next few days.

    Answers and comments have given me plenty to think about, lights, etc. but thats probably for a new thread.

    will put a pic of the guys in their new homes in a bit.

    Cheers

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    • caiman
      caiman
      5.087 points -
      October 13

      Makes me feel good when we help a grower. Thanks for that.

  • 17.921

    harley24 17.921 points - October 13

    If you are going to transplant you need to do it now before they start to flower. Imo they should be fine in the containers they are in now. These plants look good and healthy, so the choice is yours. Peace

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    • Kipper
      Kipper
      52 points -
      October 14

      Thanks harley24, good advice but its more about me and my impatience than the lovely plants, did the transplant about 9 hours ago, just about to post pics, Peace to you too

  • 2.311

    Allenpro 2.311 points - October 14

    By 2 gallon pouches does that translate to cloth pots in the no kings English? I just started using Smart Pots this grow because of all the positive reviews and the difference in growth between Smart Pots and the plastic nursery pots I was using is huge.  I grow in coco but I bet the results are the same for soil. I think 3 liters is a small pot so if you have to transplant consider the Smart Pots or try them next time. 

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    • Kipper
      Kipper
      52 points -
      October 21

      Hi, These "root pouches" I mentioned are from Nirvana shop online. I think they are almost the same as the smart pots you talk about. They are a sort of cloth material made from recycled something, supposed to breathe and allow "air pruning...  more

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