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Soil vs DWC

by AngryGrandpa about October 12 - report

Geetings to you, All my Lovelies...

I wanted to start an honest discusion on the pros and cons of soil and DWC for comparison.  Please, not that you would, as you all take our Lady Cannabis serious enough, lets not make this a pissing contest.  Just pros and cons (and if can throw in some poetry too, I would just LOVE IT, but not required, as I am SOOO in LOVE with ALL of YOU!)

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  • 6.956

    stick 6.956 points - October 12

    I grow the way I do for quality weed, Less hassel. Works for me..Its my personal choice..Also like Autoflowers at this time..Nothing to argue about. I'm sure there are many other ways and choices..

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    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      I love my Stick Man, but you didn't even tell me what you use, soil or DWC (I think soil...). C'mon, Man, step up your game....lol(couldn't resist the ball bustin', thanks for setting me up, Stick Man!)
      Much Love to my Stick Man

    • stick
      stick
      6.956 points -
      October 12

      I'm sorry Doug, I've said it so many times everyone was getting tired of it..lol I put 5lbs of Kind soil (www.kindsoil.com) in the bottom of a 5 gal. cloth pot ,top it off with Roots Organic, plant my seedling and water only with distilled water...No nut...  more

    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      My Stick Man, no need for sorrows between good "buds", I love you and was just busting your balls...and of course, you come back with the GOODS! And a great list of reasons to go soil (DWC will eat time)
      Much Love to my Stick Man

  • 11.012

    pipeman69 11.012 points - October 12

    I love both man! Dwc is a growing monster if you know what your doing. Soil on the other hand is probably the better of the 2 for quality.As far as quantity, probably dwc but my fucking soil grows rock! Every plant I grow in soil needs mad support or there will be broken limbs! I'm to new to Dwc but I'm rocking the hell out of it! If I was to choose at this point, it would be to hard for me to decide. I just love growing and I'm getting better with each grow!
    • Score: 0
    • pipeman69
      pipeman69
      11.012 points -
      October 12

      I add 2ml per gallon hydroguard. My plants are growing and flowering amazingly fast but the end result is the taste test.

    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      Just looking out for my Brothers, as we all should. I do .5 tsp, that sounds in your ballpark, its a godsend. Consider silicon supplement, good for heat stress and structure (and floralicious really rocks! I've done before delicious and after, definite...  more

    • pipeman69
      pipeman69
      11.012 points -
      October 12

      I used to use floralucious plus but there are much better products out there for essential oils and tricome production.

    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      Like?..dont you go BOGARTING that shit.....lol

  • 2.194

    thisisme 2.194 points - October 12

    If I had a tent.. and plenty of money for chillers etc.. I would do DWC.. alas.. I do neither of what you asked. I use pro mix.  its soiless.... it is what you see nursery plants grown in . It acts like soil.. but isn't.

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    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      Beautiful Thisisme, I am sorry for my narrow scope (for shame my intellectual laziness). I am interested in all grow mediums for comparison, but my need for poetry compelled me to limit my choices. If you have any input on any growing medium, your input...  more

  • 1.241

    DirtyD712 1.241 points - October 12

    I use Pro-Mix HP CC and I add another 10% perlite. It is already heavy in perlite and is a combo of peat and coir. So, IMO this is a great hyrbid for the 2 worlds. Obviously nothing is perfect because, I have to water/feed much more often than the other 2 options but, my plants are so happy and they love it. Get great results every time :-)

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    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      "Pick it, pack it, fire it up, come along and take hits from the BONG!": Damn, DirtyD712, you made me break out the Cypress Hill...lol

    • DirtyD712
      DirtyD712
      1.241 points -
      October 12

      Love Cypress Hill... not really into rap much but what Stoner doesn't like them?

  • 1.052

    Bigruss13 1.052 points - October 12

    I grow rdwc. The benefit of recirculating he is not having to do each bucket individually, adjustments can be made at the reservoir, and each bucket has an even distribution of nutrients. Now for the advantages of dwc in general. In my opinion the greatest advantage is the ability to make adjustments on the fly immediately. So if you start to see nutrient burn, you simply pail out some of the water and dilute it. Try that with soil. Also rapid growth, not only in the plant but with the roots. Also recovery times are shorter for topping LST etc. these are just my observations.
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    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.883 points -
      October 13

      I'm going to make an addendum to Russ' cutting harvest time by 2 weeks. The factors that lead up to that time savings.

      1 - LED's cut up to 1 week off the finish time
      2 - flush time in DWC is only 1 week

    • Bigruss13
      Bigruss13
      1.052 points -
      October 13

      From what I've seen growth in veg stage can be explosive cutting the veg time by a week.

    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.883 points -
      October 13

      There you go - the potential to cut total time (veg, flower, and harvest) can be up to 3 weeks.

    • happygrow
      happygrow
      121 points -
      October 14

      I believe that RDWC has been a saving grace for me as a first time grower. I have had deficiencies of magnesium, general nutrients, nutrient burn, and most other issues that can happen. Being able to change out the water/feed instantly has saved my girls ...  more

  • 54

    Dikmn77 54 points - October 12

    Great conversation!! Soil guy here. Tried coco last time but had a nasty battle with mites so I definitely didn't see anything close to the potential. Rdwc has always peaked my interest as well. The kind soil sounds pretty nice too.No nutes from start to finish. Sounds most excellent
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    • AngryGrandpa
      AngryGrandpa
      401 points -
      October 12

      Bringing worlds together, one BONG HIT at a time...thanks for the kind words, Dikmn77!

    • Dikmn77
      Dikmn77
      54 points -
      October 12

      Amen to that

  • 16.883

    HomeBrew 16.883 points - October 13

    I have experience with all of these as I've used soil, and DWC as well as ProMix and Coco. Personally I have settled on the coco/ProMix side. It gives the majority of the growth benefits of DWC and the ease of care that soil does (with the exception that there is no time that you cannot add nutrients as they are soilless/nutrientless methods of growing (it is a form of hydro) and it does not require the daily or multiple times a day PH checks and adjustments and water top offs that DWC methods require. DWC will still produce more yield, but this has gotten me extremely close to the yields the DWC does, but in a more convenient fashion and my grows are consistently much larger than anything I've ever done in soil and no quality loss. The other upside is because these methods retain a certain amount of air I never have to deal with root rot and that's always a concern with soil and overwatering. You really can't overwater the soilless mixes.

    These reasons are why I use soilless mixe options as my go-to grow. If you have the time to devote to DWC, it is the king of yield, but there are a lot of things that can go wrong quick if you don't do daily maintenance.

    • Score: 0
    • Dikmn77
      Dikmn77
      54 points -
      October 13

      Excellent info

    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.883 points -
      October 13

      OK well, I feel the need to clarify the over watering. There are several versions of ProMix. You cannot over water the HP and CC varieties. The others it is possible as they retain more water without the added coco or high amounts of perlite, but adding m...  more

  • 1.052

    Bigruss13 1.052 points - October 13

    Agreed, dwc can be setup to be Low maintenance. For example pH dosers chillers with temperature control, and an automatic secondary reservoir with a float valve. These require more initial cost and labor to be set up but can't really put DWC in cruise control.
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    • HomeBrew
      HomeBrew
      16.883 points -
      October 13

      and don't forget about your power outage fiasco. I know you worked hard during that.

    • Bigruss13
      Bigruss13
      1.052 points -
      October 13

      I did and learned a lesson, but still have not automated that. :)

    • Bigruss13
      Bigruss13
      1.052 points -
      October 13

      "Can" put it in cruise control.

  • 1.052

    Bigruss13 1.052 points - October 14

    I would like to add to this thread. I think I can say with confidence another benefit of DWC is that autos can be topped. This big ass Jock Horror not only had The top 6 inches cut off with scissors I also talked three of the other branches that were the same height as the top and it not only survived it it is thriving. One other critical in fact the one in the latest pictures with two big coolers is because it was top as well, and ended up with 2 16oz bottle size colas.
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  • 2.316

    Allenpro 2.316 points - October 14

    I suggest you try them all and see what works best for you

    I used DWC when I started growing again and I really liked it until summer came around and I had trouble keeping the water temps down. Root rot from high water temps can happen almost overnight and the fix takes some time. If there is time needed for recovery there must be some loss in yield. So I switched to Coco and I like it

    For me the pros of DWC are it is less maintenance in general, you clean the reservoir and make the nute mix once a week, keep an eye on the water temps and PH everyday, and it is nice to see the roots every week when you change the mix. 

    The cons of DWC were the water temp's plus you can’t decide to grow clones on the fly in DWC because you need an a system with an air pump, etc. and for my setup DWC seemed to take up more room.

    I did a side by side grow in coco and DWC and the plants in coco started and grew faster in veg. By the end of flower I didn’t notice any major difference in yield between the two.  

    The cons of Coco are the maintenance is higher because I feed everyday, leaving them unattended for more than 3 days is not really an option and I miss not being able to see the roots, I am thinking that is where most problems start.  

    The pros of Coco are I have not had to deal with root rot once since I started and I generally trim a a couple of time for a mainline so I can decide to start some clones at the spur of the moment.

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