thank u Texasbob  i am looking n 2 it with what ever one says been a while since i had a good grow that i waz really happy with ....  but like a good friend now but back then i waz a newbe would talk trash with the best he told me no pain no gain and i though i waz happy but cing all u guys grow made my eyes real big and breathing heavy ..  so i said ok SS i will try it your way i think i will try 2 go back 2 my other way what i waz happy with and leave all that fancy growing 2 u big time growers .....  u do know that's a dam lie i hope ....